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the truth is, governor, governor romney's tax policies are bad for america. they are geared to the super rich. they help him and his wealthy friends. and they hurt the middle class. joining me is steve and joan walsh editor of salon.com and an msnbc political analyst and author of the new book, "what's the matter with white people, why we long for golden age that never was." first, let me thank you both for being here tonight. steve, is romney running for the wrong job? should he be the accountant in chief? >> the thing with this is, any politician who has to start answering questions over the height of their campaign about taxes, that's going to be a problem. it meshes so perfectly with what democrats and president obama have been trying to say about the republican party in the republican party's priorities. the idea is the protector of this sort of privileged pampered super elite that's been immune to the great recession that's enjoyed preferential tax treatment, things like this, romney, when you start talking about a guy who pays such a low effective tax
the truth is, governor, governor romney's tax policies are bad for america. they are geared to the super rich. they help him and his wealthy friends. and they hurt the middle class. joining me is steve and joan walsh editor of salon.com and an msnbc political analyst and author of the new book, "what's the matter with white people, why we long for golden age that never was." first, let me thank you both for being here tonight. steve, is romney running for the wrong job? should he be...
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he also understands mitt romney's policies and the lack of definition. so he has a lot of opportunity to define mitt romney because mitt romney has been so vague. so i would say keep the debate on substance. take it to governor romney on issues like taxes and energy policy where there has been a lack of definition and really communicate to the american people that they can't take a risk on mitt romney. that if you don't know where he stands on taxes and you don't know where he stands on energy, you can't take a risk that he will do the right thing three months, four months from now. >> neera, people keep saying that romney isn't that good but he has shown that he's riz enrisen to the occasion. let me show you some of the clips. >> is he still the most anti-immigrant candidate? >> i would say of the four of us, yes. >> that's simply inexcusable. my father was born in mexico. my wife's father was born in wales. >> we discover to our shock that mitt romney owns shares of fannie m fannie mae and freddie mac. >> if he comes off aggressive, what should the pre
he also understands mitt romney's policies and the lack of definition. so he has a lot of opportunity to define mitt romney because mitt romney has been so vague. so i would say keep the debate on substance. take it to governor romney on issues like taxes and energy policy where there has been a lack of definition and really communicate to the american people that they can't take a risk on mitt romney. that if you don't know where he stands on taxes and you don't know where he stands on energy,...
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romney's indifference to 47% of the country, it's his policies for everyone. like his trickle down ideas, or his laughable tax rate that he thinks is fair. voters don't care for these policies and neither does their president. >> governor romney on "60 minutes "was asked, does he think it's fair that he pays a lower tax rate than somebody who's making $50,000 a year. and he said yes. i think it's fair and i also think that's the way you get economic growth. the notion being that if people at the top have more income, they'll invest and they'll create jobs. i've just got a different vision about how we grow an economy. i think, barbara, you grow an economy from the middle out, not from the top down. >> that middle out policy is already working. today we learned that home price jumped to their highest level in more than two years. consumer confidence is at its highest point in seven months. because of optimism about the job market. voters see this, but the gop doesn't. republicans just love to talk a lot about how our president doesn't understand america. but th
romney's indifference to 47% of the country, it's his policies for everyone. like his trickle down ideas, or his laughable tax rate that he thinks is fair. voters don't care for these policies and neither does their president. >> governor romney on "60 minutes "was asked, does he think it's fair that he pays a lower tax rate than somebody who's making $50,000 a year. and he said yes. i think it's fair and i also think that's the way you get economic growth. the notion being that...
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romney on foreign policy and the wars. and he is -- he's right there when he says that we don't know what mr. romney would do if he became president. mr. romney has said recently and vaguely that he supports what president obama is doing in afghanistan in terms of there being a timeline for leaving but he has also said he was against a timeline for leaving in the past. so really who knows? he's not even trying. the closest we've gotten to any competing cogent republican position on the war is probably what we got from senator john mccain at the republican convention when he said that the afghanistan war just shouldn't end. he also thinks that the iraq war shouldn't have ended. so i'm not sure that it's a politically viable position. even if it is an internally cogent one from the senator. for this year's nominee, it's apparently just not going to happen. not unless he starts it now. 40 days out, mitt romney did get as close as he gets to talking about the issue today. in that he spoke before a group of veterans and talked
romney on foreign policy and the wars. and he is -- he's right there when he says that we don't know what mr. romney would do if he became president. mr. romney has said recently and vaguely that he supports what president obama is doing in afghanistan in terms of there being a timeline for leaving but he has also said he was against a timeline for leaving in the past. so really who knows? he's not even trying. the closest we've gotten to any competing cogent republican position on the war is...
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there's a limited amount of currency that the romney campaign can get from foreign policy but the one thing the media is interested in so their one -- >> foreign policy is an important subject, regardless of whether the american public is vote on it. jonathan, there's something about the optics of seeing the president and first lady on "the view" talking about chris stevens and not meeting with world leaders and not meeting with leaders in the middle east at a period of great change and, you know, what did you make of that in terms of the message that sends? >> well, look, i agree that the libya question, the libya issue, is a vulnerability, like the spelling bee -- >> it's like obfuscation, another word as well. >> here's the problem republicans have in terms of the optics question about the president being on "the view." mitt and ann romney were on "kelly and michael," ann romney is going to be on leno tonight or in the coming days. you know, you can't make the argument that the president should be meeting with world leaders, not looking presidential when your own republican preside
there's a limited amount of currency that the romney campaign can get from foreign policy but the one thing the media is interested in so their one -- >> foreign policy is an important subject, regardless of whether the american public is vote on it. jonathan, there's something about the optics of seeing the president and first lady on "the view" talking about chris stevens and not meeting with world leaders and not meeting with leaders in the middle east at a period of great...
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he looks like a bully. >> and with regard to tomorrow, how does mitt romney, given the policy that is he himself has espoused and articulated, how does he warm up women towards him? how does he do that? >> i think the difficulty for mitt romney is the same one he's had all along because he always has at his right flank that part of the party that wants to be aggressive and that wants to be a bully and that sees that as a positive image, right? he always has to have them in his -- on his side. so i think he's afraid of walking too far away from them. he doesn't want to do the etch-a-sketch. it's going to be difficult. you are debating a sit president. you have to come across respectful -- >> a sitting president who, by the way, whose first legislative achievement was to equalize pay for women. >> which the romney campaign at first didn't know how to respond to questions of whether mitt romney would have supported that or not, and i think that clip that you played of ann romney saying i love women is so illustrative because the romney campaign wants to just assert, we're for women witho
he looks like a bully. >> and with regard to tomorrow, how does mitt romney, given the policy that is he himself has espoused and articulated, how does he warm up women towards him? how does he do that? >> i think the difficulty for mitt romney is the same one he's had all along because he always has at his right flank that part of the party that wants to be aggressive and that wants to be a bully and that sees that as a positive image, right? he always has to have them in his -- on...
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then they've tried to pull romney into the ryan mold. they vnld allowed ryan to do what he was picked to do, which is talks on policy because they understand that would be even more unpopular than what they're putting out there right now? >> is it that his instincts aren't good, he's being given bad advice? somehow it's not working. >> these are his conscious decisions. he's been running way from specifics from day one as a way to win the presidency. paul ryan is not a nominee as much as a gesture. he's a way to say to the fess cal conservative base, we're thinking of you, we want to please you, but he's not adopting ryan's actual policies. he's making ryan swallow those and smother them. he's trying to hold a mirror up to the country in such a way that he doesn't have to steake any controversial positions himself. that way you get -- >> i mean isn't that ironically the idea of the ceo president has always been if you can run a business, you can run the country. but i think this is showing the worst of what ceos do, member miezing the tr
then they've tried to pull romney into the ryan mold. they vnld allowed ryan to do what he was picked to do, which is talks on policy because they understand that would be even more unpopular than what they're putting out there right now? >> is it that his instincts aren't good, he's being given bad advice? somehow it's not working. >> these are his conscious decisions. he's been running way from specifics from day one as a way to win the presidency. paul ryan is not a nominee as...
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we've had businessman romney. foreign policy romney. latino romney. but we still haven't seen aqua romney. >> well, maybe that's not a bad idea. it is looking increasingly like mitt romney needs to do something to catch president obama in key toss-up states including ohio where both candidates are campaigning today. in the latest "the new york times"/quinnipiac poll has the president up ten points in the buckeye state. "the washington post" poll had him up by eight. the president pulled ahead in florida and pennsylvania, as well. drastic times call for drastic measures. the romney campaign is out with a new ad and just romney and the came camera. >> president obama and i both care about poor and middle class families. the difference is my policies will make things better for them. >> but that is a tough sell with middle class voters who believe romney's economic policies only benefit the rich. is it time for romney 4.0? so, i dug in to this quinnipiac poll and a few things that were interesting and struck me. first of all, there's so many people have
we've had businessman romney. foreign policy romney. latino romney. but we still haven't seen aqua romney. >> well, maybe that's not a bad idea. it is looking increasingly like mitt romney needs to do something to catch president obama in key toss-up states including ohio where both candidates are campaigning today. in the latest "the new york times"/quinnipiac poll has the president up ten points in the buckeye state. "the washington post" poll had him up by eight....
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romney's new go policy and gather the latest intel when former assistant secretary of state p.j. crowley joins us live, next. [ female announcer ] born from the naturally sweet monk fruit, something this delicious could only come from nature. now from the maker of splenda sweeteners, discover nectresse. the only 100% natural, no-calorie sweetener made from the goodness of fruit. the rich, sweet taste of sugar. nothing artificial. ♪ it's all that sweet ever needs to be. new nectresse. sweetness naturally. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. call now to request your free decision guide. i've been with my doct
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i think romney has an obligation to talk about foreign policy though. and the linkage which i think is their strongest case, why do you think the next four years will be any different than the last four years? i think making it all on the economy and arab spring is not a bad line. >> we're going to get to the polls in a moment but i'll try this on you, paul. do you think paul ryan talking about president obama's foreign policy will move people from obama to romney? >> i'm not -- i don't think paul ryan, it matters very much. but i do twhink have a sequence of things that are going to happen here and these ling up the first two things. mitt romney has a paramount goal. he must get past the debate and still have life in this campaign. if he can get through the first debate and convince republicans hi he's still in the race, not abandon him as a lost cause, have a sense that he's still in the game, he then has some options how to spend the last 35 days of the campaign. on foreign policy, the economy, prosecuting the president. this all dpebepends on wednes
i think romney has an obligation to talk about foreign policy though. and the linkage which i think is their strongest case, why do you think the next four years will be any different than the last four years? i think making it all on the economy and arab spring is not a bad line. >> we're going to get to the polls in a moment but i'll try this on you, paul. do you think paul ryan talking about president obama's foreign policy will move people from obama to romney? >> i'm not -- i...
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romney has many bush advisers particularly in foreign policy. there's nothing like someone that held that office during good economic times and you put him on the trail. >> it's amazing you how that turn-around in this relationship. what's going through bill clinton's head? >> we can only imagine. don't fill in the blanks. >> shameless plugs. >> we have a good story today about how the problem with mitt romney is actually mitt romney and less about the campaign. >> mitt romney said it himself. >> chris christie best job with his ratings in his term. >> and for my colleague? >> of course, saturday and sunday 10:00 a.m. to noon. we're going to talk about this week in voter suppression and more education nation on the show. >> thank you all. this is the daily rundown. we'll see you on monday. i think i'll be in washington and then we go to colorado. coming up next is chris jansing. good-bye. [ male announcer ] when a major hospital wanted to provide better employee benefits while balancing the company's bottom line, their very first word was... [ t
romney has many bush advisers particularly in foreign policy. there's nothing like someone that held that office during good economic times and you put him on the trail. >> it's amazing you how that turn-around in this relationship. what's going through bill clinton's head? >> we can only imagine. don't fill in the blanks. >> shameless plugs. >> we have a good story today about how the problem with mitt romney is actually mitt romney and less about the campaign. >>...
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it's become a referendum on governor romney and his policies and his statements and his vision, and his just, i think, basic outlook for the country, for hard-working families. i'm not sure how he changes that. he's got to go into that debate. because it really is the one defining moment that's left for him. he's got to go into that debate and show an empathetic side that we have not seen. he's got to show vision and substance that we have not seen, and he's got to rock the president. and i don't believe any of those things can happen in one debate. and if he doesn't, the stink of death is going to materialize around this campaign. at that time, they're going to say, listen, he didn't win that debate. this is more or less over. >> all right. chris kofinis, great to have you with us tonight. appreciate your time on "the ed show." >>> coming up, now that the deadline has passed for todd akin to withdraw from his senate race in missouri, look at this, some republicans are making peace and getting behind his campaign. will the rnc follow suit? stay tuned. >>> coming up, the gop starts circl
it's become a referendum on governor romney and his policies and his statements and his vision, and his just, i think, basic outlook for the country, for hard-working families. i'm not sure how he changes that. he's got to go into that debate. because it really is the one defining moment that's left for him. he's got to go into that debate and show an empathetic side that we have not seen. he's got to show vision and substance that we have not seen, and he's got to rock the president. and i...
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domestic policy, on domestic policy the romney campaign is built around we're counting on the economy being bad, voters want to fire the president, here's the statistic that's terrible vote out the president. they are applying that, they have applied that to foreign policy. never bothered to sit down and lay out a comprehensive and coherent foreign policy vision. what he's done, the krilts sism of obama he reacts to event bs, what romney does is react to obama's reaction to events. whatever obama's posture is he tries to maneuver into a position to say obama is weak, obama is jimmy carter about because when you're the republican it's 1979 the democratic president is always jimmy carter. the perfect example how he handled libya. when the libya thing started a year and a half ago, the first response from mitt romney, when obama agreed to the mission, the first response from mitt romney was, too late, and this isn't enough. he criticized him. weaknessp. he wouldn't address it. ducking reporters. then he starts warning couple months later, this mission, this is too broad. now mission cree
domestic policy, on domestic policy the romney campaign is built around we're counting on the economy being bad, voters want to fire the president, here's the statistic that's terrible vote out the president. they are applying that, they have applied that to foreign policy. never bothered to sit down and lay out a comprehensive and coherent foreign policy vision. what he's done, the krilts sism of obama he reacts to event bs, what romney does is react to obama's reaction to events. whatever...
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at this point i hope he knows governor romney's policies. so i think this will be a good debate between two people very skilled. obviously, governor romney has more practice, more recent practice, but i do think substance matters and that will be very helpful to the president. >> everybody watches for that memorable moment, and part of the trick is to have one ready to go but make it look like it came off the top of your head. ronald reagan was a master at that. let me play a little clip. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i'm not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> it was a good one. it got a great laugh. perry, an argue was mamt by roger simon in politico this morning that mitt romney needs to have a few jokes to leave people with the impression he's a regular guy and not some cardboard cutout. how important are one liners and jakes? perry? >> it's so -- >> i'm sorry. robert. sorry. gosh. >> that's okay. i was waiting for that. it's very important because obviously what american p
at this point i hope he knows governor romney's policies. so i think this will be a good debate between two people very skilled. obviously, governor romney has more practice, more recent practice, but i do think substance matters and that will be very helpful to the president. >> everybody watches for that memorable moment, and part of the trick is to have one ready to go but make it look like it came off the top of your head. ronald reagan was a master at that. let me play a little clip....
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he's going to talk about the policies he and mitt romney want to put into play. he knows that vice president biden is going to come after him on his medicare and budget. >> how's he going to respond? >> they're ready. they want to be able to make the case to the american people that the real threat to medicare and its future is the president's affordable health care act, which they lovingly refer to as obamacare, and the fact that the president's plan extracts $716 million away to pay for that. what paul ryan isn't telling his supporters is that his budget proposal also extracts that amount, but they say they use that to pay down the debt. >> one of the things i'm most looking forward to is governor romney and president obama, their styles are slightly similar in a debate setting. in a vp, in that debate setting, the styles could not be more different. >> joe biden is prone to a gaffe here or there. he likes to speak off the cuff. in this format, paul ryan does not expect him to go off script very much. paul ryan, this is his first attempt at debating on the nati
he's going to talk about the policies he and mitt romney want to put into play. he knows that vice president biden is going to come after him on his medicare and budget. >> how's he going to respond? >> they're ready. they want to be able to make the case to the american people that the real threat to medicare and its future is the president's affordable health care act, which they lovingly refer to as obamacare, and the fact that the president's plan extracts $716 million away to...
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aids to both mitt romney and the president really try to get under their skin. it's moments like that that can get under the president's skin. >> that debate prep is tough because they have to challenge them with their weaknesses, that can't be fun but necessary. >>> well, just moments ago, the president left the white house en route to nevada for a campaign revent and a few days of debate preparations. >> governor romney, they have said that he's practiced zingers and lines for moves and months and months. >> i think the president's view is he's not worried about zingers and lines, he's got time with the american people to explain to them his case for re-election, about what he wants to do on the economy. >> it's interesting, you just played the tape of the president striding across the south lawn, he got on marine 1. he's wheels up for nevada, a three-day debate camp there. he'll start with a grass roots event, so much emphasis now on motivating especially young people. he's got an event in henderson, nevada for three years. it's a debate camp and by all accou
aids to both mitt romney and the president really try to get under their skin. it's moments like that that can get under the president's skin. >> that debate prep is tough because they have to challenge them with their weaknesses, that can't be fun but necessary. >>> well, just moments ago, the president left the white house en route to nevada for a campaign revent and a few days of debate preparations. >> governor romney, they have said that he's practiced zingers and...
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the problem for romney is that so many of his policy recommendations either have been completely lost in the cloud of ridiculousness that's enveloped his campaign and the lack of discipline or the policies that are he proposed are policies that can be portrayed as being just like george w. bush's policies. he must talk about the future. he has to persuade people he has a plan going forward. his problem is that most of his plans wreak of the past, and the obama campaign will attack him for that. but if he doesn't pivot to the future, he's just going to lose this election because people have now decided right now that more or less they think barack obama's better on the economy, and that's the biggest change in the polls recently is obama taking the lead for the first time in who voters trust going forward. >> and he doesn't have a message that is consistent. because in ohio, he confused his tax message. so if he is going to offer tax cuts and then say but you will have the same amount of money because i'm going to eliminate deductions, but president obama actually didn't increase your
the problem for romney is that so many of his policy recommendations either have been completely lost in the cloud of ridiculousness that's enveloped his campaign and the lack of discipline or the policies that are he proposed are policies that can be portrayed as being just like george w. bush's policies. he must talk about the future. he has to persuade people he has a plan going forward. his problem is that most of his plans wreak of the past, and the obama campaign will attack him for that....
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. >>> politics and policy, mitt romney sharpens his foreign policy attacks as the president prepares to step on to the world stage. >>> celestial stunner. an awesome display of the northern lights. >>> talk about the find of a lifetime an art work found at a thrift store fetches tens of thousands at auction. good morning. i'm lynn berry. this is "first look" on nbc. >>> and we are going to begin with foreign affairs. president obama will take a brief diplomatic detour from his campaign's front lines to address the simmering crises in iran, syria, and the broader muslim world before the united nations general assembly. nbc's tracie potts joins us from washington with details. good morning. >> reporter: this is a big deal. not only for the president explaining where the world stands but for him politically. >> but first things first -- we've got an election. >> reporter: on "the view" before speaking to the united nations general assembly. aides say he'll focus on the recent unrest and death of ambassador christopher stevens. >> these are not human bumps in the road. >> either one or a
. >>> politics and policy, mitt romney sharpens his foreign policy attacks as the president prepares to step on to the world stage. >>> celestial stunner. an awesome display of the northern lights. >>> talk about the find of a lifetime an art work found at a thrift store fetches tens of thousands at auction. good morning. i'm lynn berry. this is "first look" on nbc. >>> and we are going to begin with foreign affairs. president obama will take a...
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>> let me explain it that way, the position romney is taking on any foreign policy issue is he disagrees with president obama regardless of president obama's position on this. afghanistan. he disagrees with it. what would he do differently? >> nothing. >> we don't know. he disagrees with the position on iran, on israel. what would he do differently? nothing, because the united states are at the mercy of events unless he is going to reinstate the neocon advisers. >> 17 of the 24 advised president bush. >> and we saw what the results of that were. yes, you can shape events and you can invade iraq and we see years later what the consequences of that were. so short of that, he does not -- of starting a new war, he doesn't really have another policy option. >> excellent. professor dyson, romney has claimed that the president belittled the deaths of ambassador stevens and three other americans when he spoke of the middle east experiencing bumps in the road. that's obviously a desperate attempt to undermine the president on foreign policy. and yet at the same time, sir, mr. romney thinks nothin
>> let me explain it that way, the position romney is taking on any foreign policy issue is he disagrees with president obama regardless of president obama's position on this. afghanistan. he disagrees with it. what would he do differently? >> nothing. >> we don't know. he disagrees with the position on iran, on israel. what would he do differently? nothing, because the united states are at the mercy of events unless he is going to reinstate the neocon advisers. >> 17 of...
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polls have shown movement towards mitt romney on foreign policy. to the larger question, does this go to competence? >> i think every day the romney campaign is talking about something other than the economy is probably a bad day for them. i think it's a sign of their desperation they have to make politics out of what was a terrible tragedy. and i think the obama administration has a lot of good things on foreign policy to talk about. he's president of the united states. i think, you know, the situation was unfortunately and all the information sometimes doesn't come out as timely as people would like because it's the fog of war. but i think people have great confidence in barack obama's abilities on foreign policy and how he's managed difficult situations overseas. >> john, as mitt romney has said president obama didn't level with american people about that. to that quote, here's what david plouffe said over the weekend. >> that is preposterous and really offensive to say that. once information was received, it was distributed. this record on terr
polls have shown movement towards mitt romney on foreign policy. to the larger question, does this go to competence? >> i think every day the romney campaign is talking about something other than the economy is probably a bad day for them. i think it's a sign of their desperation they have to make politics out of what was a terrible tragedy. and i think the obama administration has a lot of good things on foreign policy to talk about. he's president of the united states. i think, you...
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topping our political headlines, mitt romney going after president obama on foreign policy today. in his weekly podcast, romney said the president is fumbling his response to events in the middle east. >> this week, when president obama was asked about the recent disruption and chaos and violence in the middle east, he said that these were merely
topping our political headlines, mitt romney going after president obama on foreign policy today. in his weekly podcast, romney said the president is fumbling his response to events in the middle east. >> this week, when president obama was asked about the recent disruption and chaos and violence in the middle east, he said that these were merely
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but i find it a little puzzling what romney has done. he put out that 17,000 cap on deductions yesterday, which something that a lot of policy experts think is a pretty good idea. i don't quite understand why he walked that back. it was kind of like after he was on "meet the press" with david gregory a couple weeks ago and said i wouldn't repeal everything in obama occasion i would keep popular elements and within 24 hours his aides were saying, not exactly. i find that a little confusing. he has to figure out a way to have a consistent message that is credible and appeals to the swing voters he needs, especially white women. that's his target tonight. >> i think they pull that back -- >> karen, haven't we seen this process throughout this campaign? mr. romney says something, 24 hours later, the campaign goes out and says, he didn't mean that. he meant something else. >> here's the problem, every time romney thinks off the top of his head of something, which is probably why he was practicing zingers, he says something his campaign has to
but i find it a little puzzling what romney has done. he put out that 17,000 cap on deductions yesterday, which something that a lot of policy experts think is a pretty good idea. i don't quite understand why he walked that back. it was kind of like after he was on "meet the press" with david gregory a couple weeks ago and said i wouldn't repeal everything in obama occasion i would keep popular elements and within 24 hours his aides were saying, not exactly. i find that a little...
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also domestic policy, these wars. first of all, veterans benefits and the fact that the romney camp views this as part of the defense sequester that somehow is protected it's not pro tented as you were pointed out last night. >> there is -- i sort of felt like because the romney campaign has been so absent on issues of natural security, substantive issues of national security beyond just name calling i feel like the campaign should be encouraged now that they have tried to talk about veterans issues. there are huge issues with the disability claims but also other elements of the v.a.'s performance in terms of this current generation of veterans and older generations of vets and romney in trying to go there, in virginia this week, showed he didn't even understand the issue he was trying to make political hay out of. the problem of suicides among veterans and says a solution is he won't cut military spending in the sequester. you know, i don't think he knows what the relationship of the v.a. funding is to the sequester.
also domestic policy, these wars. first of all, veterans benefits and the fact that the romney camp views this as part of the defense sequester that somehow is protected it's not pro tented as you were pointed out last night. >> there is -- i sort of felt like because the romney campaign has been so absent on issues of natural security, substantive issues of national security beyond just name calling i feel like the campaign should be encouraged now that they have tried to talk about...
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the pressure is on domestic policy. and so this is in some ways the most important hour left in the race. >> would you agree with that? this is mitt romney's moment? >> he has to breakthrough. the problem is for him is that if obama does well and romney does well then it is the status quo and the status quo favors obama. >> you don't think it is a little bizarre that we put so much weight into an hour and a half where they are delivering prepared lines? we have a build up to the campaign and then we turn and say we have an hour and a half. >> it is an hour and a half unfiltered. we get lies in 30 second ads. we get lies -- >> step up. >> they have been preparing to deliver specific lines in specific ways. >> it is -- >> you can go back to 1960 but there is some substance. 1960 you had nixon sweating in 1976. you had jerry ford talking about the soviet union not in poland. there is one example after another of how these debates did make a big difference. >> and it would appear, i don't want to put undue pressure on them
the pressure is on domestic policy. and so this is in some ways the most important hour left in the race. >> would you agree with that? this is mitt romney's moment? >> he has to breakthrough. the problem is for him is that if obama does well and romney does well then it is the status quo and the status quo favors obama. >> you don't think it is a little bizarre that we put so much weight into an hour and a half where they are delivering prepared lines? we have a build up to...
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bus. >> reporter: the white house feels it is more in tune with voters. >> i executed on my foreign policy and one that the american people largely agree with. so, you know, if governor romney is suggesting that we should start another war, he should say so. >> that was nbc's andrea mitchell reporting. >>> this morning iran is responding to netanyahu's red line comments saying it reserves the right to retaliate against any attack. meantime, new internal israeli government report finds that international sanctions are, in fact, hurting iran's economy but have not slowed down the nuclear program. the report calls for another round of sanctions to be implemented. >> in the race for the white house, we have got new batch of poll numbers coming out on three more battleground states. according to the new nbc/"wall street journal"/marist college poll, the president has a slim lead over voters in north carolina where the democrats held their national convention earlier this month. obama won the state in 2008 by less than 1%. he also has a two-point advantage in nevada, well within the margin of er
bus. >> reporter: the white house feels it is more in tune with voters. >> i executed on my foreign policy and one that the american people largely agree with. so, you know, if governor romney is suggesting that we should start another war, he should say so. >> that was nbc's andrea mitchell reporting. >>> this morning iran is responding to netanyahu's red line comments saying it reserves the right to retaliate against any attack. meantime, new internal israeli...
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of this strategy before going into this debate on domestic policy, romney with an op-ed on foreign policy, already information he's going to give this big speech when so many times you and i have had strategists as a part of this panel and they say he wants to talk about the economy, not by any stretch of the imagination say what's happening in afghanistan or libya should be diminished but the domestic policy issue, getting people to work, that is supposed to be governor romney's a game. >> but it hasn't played so well particularly in the afternoon math of the 47% comment. i think they sense weakness given what transpired in libya. i heard earlier today, paul ryan talk about how we're pulling out of afghanistan at a time when troops are getting killed. if what he's saying is we should be saying and beefing up our support there, i think that's the wrong conclusions. most americans say let's get the hell out even sooner than we forecast. >> i'm going to ask only steve this question, "the washington post" debate question, who will win the debate, obama or romney? you only give one choice. >>
of this strategy before going into this debate on domestic policy, romney with an op-ed on foreign policy, already information he's going to give this big speech when so many times you and i have had strategists as a part of this panel and they say he wants to talk about the economy, not by any stretch of the imagination say what's happening in afghanistan or libya should be diminished but the domestic policy issue, getting people to work, that is supposed to be governor romney's a game....
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so if this gets into a debate about policies, that i think someone of mitt romney's problems. everybody says oh, romney is just a bad candidate. no. the philosophy that he is putting forward any republican candidate this year would be putting forward. it just happens not to be with the public supports. >> richard knows he is not being sincere in terms of characterizing the governor's policy. >> what policies specifically? >> he is certainly, you know, certainly put forward a plan that is more specific an broader based than just tax breaks for the rich. >> i want to focus, not so much on policy here for a minute. but i do want to continue to focus on the debate here. and richard, i want to play a quick moment that president obama might wish hadn't happened in 2008. take a look. >> he is very likable. i agree with that. i don't think i'm that bad. >> you're like a bowl of -- hillary. >> he doesn't even look up when he says it. does the president have to worry about coming across as aloof or perhaps as a tad arrogant? >> look, i guarantee you that everybody in his debate prep cro
so if this gets into a debate about policies, that i think someone of mitt romney's problems. everybody says oh, romney is just a bad candidate. no. the philosophy that he is putting forward any republican candidate this year would be putting forward. it just happens not to be with the public supports. >> richard knows he is not being sincere in terms of characterizing the governor's policy. >> what policies specifically? >> he is certainly, you know, certainly put forward a...
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he said if there were an over arching thing mitt romney was carrying from foreign policy -- >> you can only build that theme if you do it day in and day out and obama has done his theme which is romney is this rich guy who is going to outsource everything. he's been tripped up every now and then but by and large has been consistent. mitt romney has been his own worst enemy. >> that is the problem kelly. they don't have a big over arching theme as charles krauthammer says that carries them through a week where they're not looking at just what happened 15 minutes ago and trying to respond frantically to that. >> i think the romney people would say their over arching theme is we can't afford four more years. however, they have not hammered that as consistently and i think what you talked about, being over shadowed by the shiny object of a gaffe or some other kind of unexpected thing that has distracted people from focusing on that. >> so, josh, the campaigns are, you write, are consumed with the undecided voters but can they get them? >> that was a question i went and looked at in this we
he said if there were an over arching thing mitt romney was carrying from foreign policy -- >> you can only build that theme if you do it day in and day out and obama has done his theme which is romney is this rich guy who is going to outsource everything. he's been tripped up every now and then but by and large has been consistent. mitt romney has been his own worst enemy. >> that is the problem kelly. they don't have a big over arching theme as charles krauthammer says that...
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romney's boston brain trust. all year long they have been mapping out the narrative on foreign policy, endless ll lly portraying the president as anti-israel. all they needed was a little third party cover and look what happened. unfortunately for poor mr. romney, it's only going to get worse as more people pick up on his oft repeated line and finally start calling it what it is. >> first of all, the term throwing israel under the bus is really a remarkable -- you know, it's an unbelievably cynical exploitive term that is also a lie. but that doesn't mean we should be penalized for it. that's why liberty mutual insurance policies come standard with accident forgiveness, if you qualify. learn more at libertymutual.com. [ sneezes ] [ male announcer ] if you have yet to master the quiet sneeze... ♪ [ sneezes ] [ male announcer ] you may be an allergy muddler. try zyrtec®. it gives you powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin® because zyrtec® starts working at hour 1 on the first day you
romney's boston brain trust. all year long they have been mapping out the narrative on foreign policy, endless ll lly portraying the president as anti-israel. all they needed was a little third party cover and look what happened. unfortunately for poor mr. romney, it's only going to get worse as more people pick up on his oft repeated line and finally start calling it what it is. >> first of all, the term throwing israel under the bus is really a remarkable -- you know, it's an...
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, as barack obama has over mitt romney. so, the republicans will try to make an issue of benghazi, they'll try to make an issue of iran. i don't think it's sticking. and i think the successful kill of bin laden did this president an enormous amount of political good, not just in this area, but almost across the board in terms of making him seem strong and resolute, and it becomes very difficult for the republicans to make the case against him. >> well, it also is difficult to make the case, it begets the question, what are you going to do? i mean are you going to -- are you going to put boots on the ground it iran? there's absolutely no appetite in terms of american public opinion in terms of intervention in the middle east. >> to howard's point, the issue of mubarak is out and the transition from american ally to new leadership, while messy, happened. gadhafi's done. there's a lot to point to, when the president says you've got to trust me, there is a lot to point to in his favor. at the same time this is a referee kind of
, as barack obama has over mitt romney. so, the republicans will try to make an issue of benghazi, they'll try to make an issue of iran. i don't think it's sticking. and i think the successful kill of bin laden did this president an enormous amount of political good, not just in this area, but almost across the board in terms of making him seem strong and resolute, and it becomes very difficult for the republicans to make the case against him. >> well, it also is difficult to make the...
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how much peril do you think there is for mitt romney? >> he's weak on foreign policy. and he flubbed his lines with benghazi and trying to make a big deal about what the president meant when he said bumps in the road is desperate. and i suspect the romney campaign is just as keen for the u.n. session to be over as the obama camp. they don't want to make too much news and expose their candidate's frailties in this area. >> one of the big criticisms we've heard about the president is that he was elected with the expectation that he would be this transformational president and part of that transformation would be the relationships that he would build with foreign leaders and his critics have said pretty harshly that this would be a president who has not yet developed personal relationships that can sometimes define a strong foreign policy. why? >> that is a criticism you hear from some of president obama's admirers and friend, that he doesn't make that connection not only with foreign leaders, but with congressional leaders. that he's a little too remote. that there hasn'
how much peril do you think there is for mitt romney? >> he's weak on foreign policy. and he flubbed his lines with benghazi and trying to make a big deal about what the president meant when he said bumps in the road is desperate. and i suspect the romney campaign is just as keen for the u.n. session to be over as the obama camp. they don't want to make too much news and expose their candidate's frailties in this area. >> one of the big criticisms we've heard about the president is...
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. >> romney in colorado at a rally and paul ryan on a bus tour of ohio attacked the president on foreign policy. >> turn on the tv and it's not -- it reminds you of 1979 tehran, but they are burning our flags in capitals all around the world. they are storming our embassies. we have lost four of our diplomats and saying we are going to gut our national security, our military. that projects weakness. >> white house has condemned that romney's -- the president was referring to the death of ambassador chris stevens when he used the phrase "bumps in the road." here is press secretary jay carney in response. >> there is a certain rather desperate attempt to grasp words and phrases here to find political advantage and, in this case, that is profoundly offensive. >> joining me now on behalf of the romney campaign, former new york city mayor, rudy giuliani. you are here because the bill clinton event is running late and i'm shocked, shocked. >> having to wait for president clinton to go out and used to tie up traffic for about 45 minutes every move. >> you have figured it out. >> a good friend.
. >> romney in colorado at a rally and paul ryan on a bus tour of ohio attacked the president on foreign policy. >> turn on the tv and it's not -- it reminds you of 1979 tehran, but they are burning our flags in capitals all around the world. they are storming our embassies. we have lost four of our diplomats and saying we are going to gut our national security, our military. that projects weakness. >> white house has condemned that romney's -- the president was referring to...
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>> the angel is in the policy. >> we'll see if romney can avoid talking about all of those devils in wednesday night's debate in the economy. joining me now is msnbc contributor and author megan mccain and msnbc political analyst richard wolf. he's the author of revival, the struggle for survival inside the obama white house. thanks to both of you for being here tonight. >> thanks, reverend. >> richard, it's got to be bad if fox news isn't buying your line. >> you know, chris wallace was asking really reasonable questions. it's flot just about specifics. it's to try and explain the real costs, the facts behind the tax policy. so even if you set aside the proposition about whether you are winning or losing, because all of these things can be temporary at the beginning of the campaign, but getting to the details in a factual way is important. if you cannot boil down your message as candidate, never mind about a bumper sticker but a sound bite, how you express it to voters that's exactly the problem that they are in. the details are difficult but difficult not to explain but difficult f
>> the angel is in the policy. >> we'll see if romney can avoid talking about all of those devils in wednesday night's debate in the economy. joining me now is msnbc contributor and author megan mccain and msnbc political analyst richard wolf. he's the author of revival, the struggle for survival inside the obama white house. thanks to both of you for being here tonight. >> thanks, reverend. >> richard, it's got to be bad if fox news isn't buying your line. >> you...
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of the last administration and some of the same policies that mitt romney and paul ryan want to go back to, the middle class was severely punished and has take an while to bounce back. but the president has put the middle class at the center of everything that he has done over the past four years and he'll talk about that tonight. >> now, one of the things that the republicans are sure to talk about tonight is debt. trillions of dollars in debt. the failure of president obama from their perspective to do anything about it. i'm sure that the president would argue that republicans have stood in the way. but what is the most effective argument that president can make tonight about the failure under his watch to do anything about the debt and the fact that it has ballooned and we're facing the so-called fiscal cliff. >> well, a couple things. he was handed a record deficit when he came into office. >> does it work to keep talking about what happened before? >> only to put in context of where he wants to take the country. we were handed a record debt. record deficit when we walked in because
of the last administration and some of the same policies that mitt romney and paul ryan want to go back to, the middle class was severely punished and has take an while to bounce back. but the president has put the middle class at the center of everything that he has done over the past four years and he'll talk about that tonight. >> now, one of the things that the republicans are sure to talk about tonight is debt. trillions of dollars in debt. the failure of president obama from their...
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that romney and ryan supported. as bill clinton said you all they are suggesting now when he is asked about this, and he's a the best, he made the comment, he said, what they are proposing is bush economic policies on steroids. >> if you look at what the vice president said and what he has been saying on the campaign trail, is that the middle class has been buried by the exact same policies that mitt romney and paul ryan want to go back to. >> so, kevin madden didn't want too touch that 2007 obama video but the campaign certainly wanted to touch on vice president joe biden's comments. they have got a t-shirt up now, says honest joe, applauding his comments regarding the middle class being buried. what do you make of this back and forth, ab? will it matter tonight? >> i think it might come up and the president will find a wake as he has in the past, that's joe bind, he didn't mean that and what he meant was because of the financial collapse of september of 2008 and even the beginnings of the recession we saw once bef
that romney and ryan supported. as bill clinton said you all they are suggesting now when he is asked about this, and he's a the best, he made the comment, he said, what they are proposing is bush economic policies on steroids. >> if you look at what the vice president said and what he has been saying on the campaign trail, is that the middle class has been buried by the exact same policies that mitt romney and paul ryan want to go back to. >> so, kevin madden didn't want too touch...
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some sort of policy news that had an impact on voters and on this race? >> i mean i don't know. it's been a while. that is one of the things about these campaigns. not that romney has lost it all in one moment through a fatal gaffe although there have been bad moments but every day he's losing it day by day each day in a new and creative method and i think it's very tricky and what you're starting to see in the quotes there is a potential for republican -- for kind of, you know, staffer starting to give premore tems to the press, spin how it's not their fault. toward the enof the mccain campaign they were preparing internal memos of how to exonerate themselves of blame. you'll start to see that coming. when that kind of thing comes, republican money people start to smell it and look for other places to put their resources. >> melissa, is there extra credit for losing creatively? you're a teacher and educator. >> i mean there actually is extra credit for losing creatively if you are a current office holder. if you are a senator or governor and going to go
some sort of policy news that had an impact on voters and on this race? >> i mean i don't know. it's been a while. that is one of the things about these campaigns. not that romney has lost it all in one moment through a fatal gaffe although there have been bad moments but every day he's losing it day by day each day in a new and creative method and i think it's very tricky and what you're starting to see in the quotes there is a potential for republican -- for kind of, you know, staffer...
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i think it's going to be a domestic policy debate. i'm sure romney's main message is going to be, look, it doesn't have to be this way, okay? we can create jobs, we can deal with the federal deficit, and, yes, we can have a foreign policy where we stabilize these parts of the world if we'll just act in the traditions of bipartisan foreign policy since world war ii. i think that's going to be his basic message. >> in the op-ed there was a phrase used, soft power. i guess what does that mean? what would they have done differently with libya? >> well, here's what should have happened. first, ideally you anticipate the arab spring. if you can't do that, when it happens you set forth a very clear vision of where the region ought to go, in the direction of a constitutional government. you actually get involved in these countries. you learn the elements that want those things. you support them and give them credibility. you identify the elements that don't want those things. you oppose those. you actually use the tools. >> do you think the u
i think it's going to be a domestic policy debate. i'm sure romney's main message is going to be, look, it doesn't have to be this way, okay? we can create jobs, we can deal with the federal deficit, and, yes, we can have a foreign policy where we stabilize these parts of the world if we'll just act in the traditions of bipartisan foreign policy since world war ii. i think that's going to be his basic message. >> in the op-ed there was a phrase used, soft power. i guess what does that...
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the romney campaign is basically losing. it's basically a wash. the kpanl starts grasping for other things and that's why we're hearing -- >> romney is ahead over veterans 20 percentage points. maybe they're seeing some kind of opening there to talk about war. >> republicans have long had an advantage with veterans. i would add something that steve said. a tough couple of weeks. they saw something. they could seize on and get a little bit of -- go on the offense a little bit, get their mojo back which i'm sure they seized on. i don't think the bumps in the road is one that's going to get much traction for a couple of reasons. first of all when they hear that, it doesn't resonate with them as something that's really that off kilter. he wasn't talking about ambassador stevens' death. he was talking in general about the situation in the middle east. the other thing is a gaffe or attack is effective when it's something they already feel. so mitt romney's comments about the 47%. they go straight to the electorate that this guy is an arrogant condescend
the romney campaign is basically losing. it's basically a wash. the kpanl starts grasping for other things and that's why we're hearing -- >> romney is ahead over veterans 20 percentage points. maybe they're seeing some kind of opening there to talk about war. >> republicans have long had an advantage with veterans. i would add something that steve said. a tough couple of weeks. they saw something. they could seize on and get a little bit of -- go on the offense a little bit, get...
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showed the fact that he's a policy guy, that he cares about issues. but that mitt romney does not get very much attention. and he doesn't put it on display very often. and it's now -- the thing he has to become is a fighter. he has to have people like joe scarborough look at him every day on the trail, every day, every event and say, he's fighting for the party. he's fighting for the country. he's fighting to turn the country around. i don't see that. but if he doesn't become that before the first debate and in the first debate, it's going to be very hard to keep the party together behind him. >> again, time's running out. october 2nd is early voting in ohio. you've got the first debate coming up. you've got people like karl rove. karl rove every day. and that's the guy i would be looking at if i were mitt romney. not just mitt romney but all of us should look at karl rove. what's karl doing with his money? karl knows how to use money in campaigns better than anybody else. i still think the 2004 win, one of the remarkable achievements in modern presid
showed the fact that he's a policy guy, that he cares about issues. but that mitt romney does not get very much attention. and he doesn't put it on display very often. and it's now -- the thing he has to become is a fighter. he has to have people like joe scarborough look at him every day on the trail, every day, every event and say, he's fighting for the party. he's fighting for the country. he's fighting to turn the country around. i don't see that. but if he doesn't become that before the...
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the difference is, my policies will make things better for them. >> mitt romney is still trying to clean up his 47% problem and america isn't buying it.
the difference is, my policies will make things better for them. >> mitt romney is still trying to clean up his 47% problem and america isn't buying it.
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the difference is, my policies will make things better for them. we shouldn't measure compassion by how many people are on welfare. we should measure compassion by how many people are able to get off welfare and get a good-paying job. >> i think that's a strong ad for mitt romney. the question is why he wasn't playing that two or three months ago. >> it is a good ad and you're right. there's a larger dynamic in ohio that actually is true nationally, too, which is you have some economic improvement, you have -- there's a sort of consumer confidence number that came out, highest since february, the housing market that's starting to actually show real upticks nationally and the distressed markets, so it's going to be hard for mitt romney to go around selling the voice of gloom. that's something people don't want to hear. they're changing tactics. the compassion idea, something else, compassion and mitt romney , not a natural fit but they have to try something new. i think, i would be interested to see if they come out with a harder economic message be
the difference is, my policies will make things better for them. we shouldn't measure compassion by how many people are on welfare. we should measure compassion by how many people are able to get off welfare and get a good-paying job. >> i think that's a strong ad for mitt romney. the question is why he wasn't playing that two or three months ago. >> it is a good ad and you're right. there's a larger dynamic in ohio that actually is true nationally, too, which is you have some...
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part of the reason is that we don't know what afghanistan policy mitt romney is proposing. we know there is a huge political opportunity for him to get to the president's left and call for a more rapid withdrawal. we also know the right wing foreign policy elites would never let him dethat. i want to find out what my guests know now they didn't know when the week began. jimmy, what do we know? >> we know everyone is not excited about the barclay center, the new home for the brooklyn nets. there were protests when the stadium opened. folks are upset the developers didn't keep their promises to communities, most of them of color about affordable housing and job promises. that's something we need to keep an eye on. >> the barclay center was a subject of a huge drawnout battle and controversy. the way it ended up getting built was a set of promises being made, a certain amount of affordable housing and good living jobs. so far, the initial promises don't look like they are being met. a lot of back door deals an eminent domain. it is really a crazy story in and of itself. >> a c
part of the reason is that we don't know what afghanistan policy mitt romney is proposing. we know there is a huge political opportunity for him to get to the president's left and call for a more rapid withdrawal. we also know the right wing foreign policy elites would never let him dethat. i want to find out what my guests know now they didn't know when the week began. jimmy, what do we know? >> we know everyone is not excited about the barclay center, the new home for the brooklyn nets....
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the difference is, my policies will make things better for them. >> mitt romney is still trying to clean
the difference is, my policies will make things better for them. >> mitt romney is still trying to clean
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two weeks ago the senior adviser for the romney campaign said people are ready to know about the policies. that's when he said we're going to fill in the details. obviously they haven't done that. but you're right. it's very simple. you just have to make the math up. but they realize as soon as they name one deduction or one exemption that they're going to be attacked for it and they're going to try to do it until the very day of the election. >> i really crack up when i hear paul ryan use the word baseline, as if it's a very heavy, technical term that if we get into anything involving this word "baseline", everybody is going to get confused. when mac fact baseline has absolutely nothing to do with the question in any way. it seems to me, it sounds like it's the only technical budget term ryan seems to know. >> it sounds like what he's trying to say is they expect their tax cuts to generate economic growth and of course cbo won't take that into consideration. therefore there's no way to properly score the tax policy that they're putting forward. but that doesn't excuse them not actually o
two weeks ago the senior adviser for the romney campaign said people are ready to know about the policies. that's when he said we're going to fill in the details. obviously they haven't done that. but you're right. it's very simple. you just have to make the math up. but they realize as soon as they name one deduction or one exemption that they're going to be attacked for it and they're going to try to do it until the very day of the election. >> i really crack up when i hear paul ryan...
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it's not true as a matter of policy. but that's how the romney campaign has been running against obama. he repeated the lie to cnn just last week. there was a moment back in may when it became a scandal that a pro-mitt romney super pac had even been pitched the idea of bringing jeremiah wright back as an attack on president obama. that ad campaign was never picked up by the pro-romney super pac or the romney campaign itself. it was a scandal they had even been asked to pick up something that racially charged. but a few months later, the campaign picked up the welfare nonsense campaigning in a way that's divorced from the facts but that's loaded with enough sub text to knock you over in a still wind. and they picked up newt gingrich surrogate in his food stamps attack. no and now fox news and the pro-mitt romney drudge report just are going full bore on the jeremiah wright stuff, as o of right now. in 2008 the john mccain had a choice about whether or not they should campaign on really overtly racial appeals. things like
it's not true as a matter of policy. but that's how the romney campaign has been running against obama. he repeated the lie to cnn just last week. there was a moment back in may when it became a scandal that a pro-mitt romney super pac had even been pitched the idea of bringing jeremiah wright back as an attack on president obama. that ad campaign was never picked up by the pro-romney super pac or the romney campaign itself. it was a scandal they had even been asked to pick up something that...